We’re Renaming NuPack

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UPDATE: The new name is NuGet

The NuPack project is undergoing a rename and we need your help! For details, read the announcement about the rename on the Outercurve Foundation’s blog.

What is the new name?

We don’t know. You tell us! The NuPack project team brainstormed a set of names and narrowed down the list to four names.

I’ve posted a set of names as issues in our NuPack CodePlex.com site and will ask you to vote for your favorite name among the lot. Vote for as many as you want, but realize that if you vote for all of them, you’ve just cancelled your vote. Winking
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Here are the choices:

Voting will close at 10/26 at 11:59 PM.

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73 responses

  1. Avatar for Bryan
    Bryan October 21st, 2010

    This is a joke right? Those are our choices? I vote you don't change the name, all of those are terrible.

  2. Avatar for Eric
    Eric October 21st, 2010

    Wow I would rather have my ballz ripped off than choose one of those choices, seriously awful! I refuse to choose one of those!

  3. Avatar for Joshua
    Joshua October 21st, 2010

    Ok. I hate to be a bad citizen but really, those names are AWFUL. I also vote no name change. None of those names have anything close to a good feel. Sorry guys but my opinion is this effort is a massive fail.

  4. Avatar for Matt
    Matt October 21st, 2010

    I was never a big fan of NuPack, but these names are even worse! Is this a joke? Those seriously can't be the best names that you guys came up with.

  5. Avatar for Alistair
    Alistair October 21st, 2010

    Yeah those suck.

  6. Avatar for Jeff
    Jeff October 21st, 2010

    Eh, NFetch isn't so bad; it's got a nice ring to it and it brands well all the other dotnet "Nxxx" projects out there.

  7. Avatar for Michael Stum
    Michael Stum October 21st, 2010

    Don't want to be too harsh, especially since you're not the one to blame, but I have to agree, they aren't really good. SnapFetch actually isn't that bad, it's just a bad name for a Packaging System IMHO. Same for NFetch. DotNetPack and OuterPack are just uninspired and Bland :(
    I know, no suggestions, but I still make some, e.g. the PowerShell-styled "Get-Packages", or something that has Repo(sitory) in it. Or something that's really made up. "Parcels"? "NetLets" (inspired by CmdLets)? "FuncBits"? (Functional Bits, as in Bits and Pieces).
    I don't know, all I can say is: I really recommend taking another shot at this.

  8. Avatar for Jason Watts
    Jason Watts October 21st, 2010

    If its like apt-get, then rename it net-get
    If its supposed to work like gems, then ngems

  9. Avatar for John Sheehan
    John Sheehan October 21st, 2010

    SnapPack (the .com and .org are both parked and I bet they could be obtained)

  10. Avatar for Ian Warrington
    Ian Warrington October 21st, 2010

    How about "GuPack" ;)

  11. Avatar for JD
    JD October 21st, 2010

    This must a publicity stunt - like the GAP logo thing.

  12. Avatar for haacked
    haacked October 21st, 2010

    @JohnSheehan a parked domain can cost several grand. I wish it were just a publicity stunt. It's hard finding a good name.

  13. Avatar for fschwiet
    fschwiet October 21st, 2010

    Something can be said for having a name like similar tools from other platforms. Its worked well for NUnit, PSake, NHibernate, etc...

  14. Avatar for Gabe
    Gabe October 21st, 2010

    I agree that all of these are worse than NuPack.

  15. Avatar for Craig
    Craig October 21st, 2010

    As I mentioned on OuterCurve, I think nFetch is the most conventional and self explanatory.
    As someone who has tried naming a startup before, I sympathise.

  16. Avatar for OmariO
    OmariO October 21st, 2010


    Ninclude

  17. Avatar for haacked
    haacked October 21st, 2010

    What do you think of Pakkeji?

  18. Avatar for Martin
    Martin October 21st, 2010

    After reading the announcement explaining the background of this renaming snafu, I suggest you simply revert back to the original name "NPack". It's simple and consistent with the NWhatever thing you've got going on, and it makes sense given it's a packaging system. What could be more perfect?
    NPack, NPack, NPack.
    You had it right the first time. You know you did.

  19. Avatar for Adam
    Adam October 21st, 2010

    Could go for the Russell Brand approach:
    Haack's Paacky Whaack
    But I guess things that sound like open source projects works aswell.
    NDubz did it when they stopped producing their music in Java and used .NET Framework insted. NHybernate isn't on iTunes yet.
    What about SubPack? Sounds slightly healthier than McPack.

  20. Avatar for Henning Kilset
    Henning Kilset October 21st, 2010

    I seriously urge you to reconsider those names. NUPack is a TON better than the ones you have suggested.
    I suggest DotStream, LibStream, or NetFetch.

  21. Avatar for Phillip
    Phillip October 21st, 2010

    Absolutely rubbish names.

  22. Avatar for Mads
    Mads October 21st, 2010

    NuPack is better than the suggested names.
    I think you should un-announce the renaming ;)
    But wait... what about: Microsoft .NET Visual Studio Package Download Foundation Add-in?

  23. Avatar for Ryan Heath
    Ryan Heath October 21st, 2010

    I did not lookup if it meets all the criteria, but how about
    uNpack? ;)
    // Ryan

  24. Avatar for haacked
    haacked October 21st, 2010

    @Martin well there was already a project named NPack at http://npack.codeplex.com/. Also, npack.com is taken.

  25. Avatar for Knoxy
    Knoxy October 21st, 2010

    @Martin I'm with you, was about to suggest it myself :)
    NPack.

  26. Avatar for Knoxy
    Knoxy October 21st, 2010

    @Phil Sorry, posted before I saw your 2 minute earlier comment about NPack :)

  27. Avatar for Drazen Dotlic
    Drazen Dotlic October 21st, 2010

    All of the proposed names are horrible. If you insist that these are our only choices... well, shucks then I guess, I vote for none of them.
    If you wanted us to propose a name... then I'd rather have NCase, but that's also taken... damn. I feel your pain, but again, those proposed names are worse than nupack.

  28. Avatar for Gabriel
    Gabriel October 21st, 2010

    Maybe it is better to propose other 5 names to choose from...
    I vote for none of the proposed names and NuPack sounds better :)

  29. Avatar for Nick
    Nick October 21st, 2010

    Phil,
    I'm your biggest fan. I love Microsoft. But...these names stink like rotten fish.
    Please....don't embarrass the community.

  30. Avatar for GP
    GP October 21st, 2010

    Hmmm...I like NuGet.

  31. Avatar for redsquare
    redsquare October 21st, 2010

    FUBUPack

  32. Avatar for Ivan K
    Ivan K October 21st, 2010

    What about PackMan name? :)
    Or dotPackMan

  33. Avatar for Alex
    Alex October 21st, 2010

    Guys, let's go for a brainstorm here
    nupackname.uservoice.com/forums/82621-general

  34. Avatar for Cyril Gupta
    Cyril Gupta October 21st, 2010

    Lol. :D
    You look at all the comments from all the programmers and you still need to wonder why software doesn't get made?
    The instructions are clear yet nobody is following them. :P
    Why, we're like art critics now!
    I vote for NFetch. (It's the best of a sorry lot).
    See guys, wasn't this simple?

  35. Avatar for Matt
    Matt October 21st, 2010

    You'll almost always add a reference to the packaged code so nRef?

  36. Avatar for Alex
    Alex October 21st, 2010

    Pak

  37. Avatar for Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward October 21st, 2010

    From the four - NFetch
    New - pacaroni

  38. Avatar for Thomas Eyde
    Thomas Eyde October 21st, 2010

    I would have voted for NGem.

  39. Avatar for Clayton Firth
    Clayton Firth October 21st, 2010

    NPack... it's the best of a bad lot.

  40. Avatar for Shawn Miller
    Shawn Miller October 21st, 2010

    How about Cargo?
    "Cargo (or freight) is goods or produce transported, generally for commercial gain, by ship, aircraft, train, van or truck. In modern times, containers are used in most intermodal long-haul cargo transport."

  41. Avatar for Jaans
    Jaans October 21st, 2010

    If we have to change, here's some 2c brain dumps...
    NPack +1
    .Pack / dotPack
    RefPac / RefPack / .Ref / NRef(as in reference package).
    Pallet

  42. Avatar for Stebet
    Stebet October 21st, 2010

    Out of those I think NFetch is the best.
    Shame.. I liked the NuPack name :(

  43. Avatar for Dave Arkley
    Dave Arkley October 21st, 2010

    I'll vote for NInclude, does what it says on the tin and (IMHO) quite snappy.

  44. Avatar for ILog
    ILog October 21st, 2010

    +1 for Cargo - short, recognizable, meaningful

  45. Avatar for Cassio R. Eskelsen
    Cassio R. Eskelsen October 21st, 2010

    Rob Conery have a good suggestion, compatible with Microsoft Branding Style Guidelines: "Microsoft .NET Live Code Delivery Platform Installer" ( http://goo.gl/tD7X )

  46. Avatar for Darek
    Darek October 21st, 2010

    I suggest: Visual Studio Packing Utility For .Net Developers Enterprise Edition
    To be serious i suggest: VsPack because it works with Visual Stuido :-)

  47. Avatar for gliljas
    gliljas October 21st, 2010

    Trying to be civil about it, but it's hard. NuPack is soooo much better. Part of the allure of "gem" is that sounds cute and works well as a noun. "There's a gem for that"!
    Therefore I really like one suggestion by "GP" above, "NuGet", which could easily be transformed into "nugget" (maybe in pronunciation only). "I'll just get a couple of nuggets to complete this task".

  48. Avatar for hwiechers
    hwiechers October 21st, 2010

    Keep the current name. Renaming it will just cause confusion and this is all just bikeshedding anyway.

  49. Avatar for ulu
    ulu October 21st, 2010

    NuPamelaAndersonPack?

  50. Avatar for Alex
    Alex October 21st, 2010

    Two options missing:


    .NET Package Manager Windows Edition


    Visual DotNet FetchSafe Suite


  51. Avatar for James Manning
    James Manning October 21st, 2010

    Is that cut-off in PDT? :)
    IMHO NFoo implies a 'port' of the Foo project? (NHibernate, obviously, being a/the prime example)
    In the most civilized manner possible, I'll add 2 more names for no real reason (since the finalists are already chosen :)
    #1 - since it's not about fetching arbitrary packages (we're not installing applications AFAICT, in contrast to what apt/dpkg/rpm/etc can do), focus on the role of 'get this dependency' - ***DepFetch*** (google shows it not having any obvious usage currently)
    #2 - gem makes sense for ruby (obviously). In similar fashion, we could find a name based on the Iron* line of naming (especially as a show of support as those teams have suffered). Combined with a focus on simplicity, and inspired by my son's favorite movie (Cars), we get Rust-eze or ***RustEze*** (PascalCasing for Anders reasons :). We even get a Billy Mays-like tag line for free: 'Bringing you libraries with the Power of Oxygen!' ... there are shorter, dorkier versions around too, of course, like 'Some assemblies required' :)

  52. Avatar for Nick
    Nick October 21st, 2010

    Go for NPack is better than the suggested names.

  53. Avatar for Slavo Ingilizov
    Slavo Ingilizov October 21st, 2010

    Question. How many people have to comment on the absurdness of the choices given, in order for the team to realize that the factors for choosing the name would never result in a good name?
    Just ask Jeff Atwood what happened when he let the community brainstorm names for their newly launched stack exchange sites, but limited the suggestions to those with a domain available. He launched, and then reverted the name (and redirected the domain). At least he had the courage to do so. With NuPack I don't think it's gonna revert, no matter how bad it is. Sadness.

  54. Avatar for Sandor Drieënhuizen
    Sandor Drieënhuizen October 21st, 2010

    How about NCourier?
    I think the physical package delivery analogy matches the project's purpose quite well.

  55. Avatar for Alan Stevens
    Alan Stevens October 21st, 2010

    sNatch

  56. Avatar for Nelak
    Nelak October 21st, 2010

    Why not IronPack!!! :D

  57. Avatar for Emad Ibrahim
    Emad Ibrahim October 21st, 2010

    I agree these names suck :)
    I vote for no name change or nPack.
    Off-topic: why not learn from Mercurial and make your commands less verbose e.g. add instead of add-package, list instead of list-packages, etc... maybe even np instead of nupack or npack. so you can do things like
    np list
    np add
    etc... less typing = no carpel tunnel = good
    Nice work though and I will try and contribute whenever I have time.

  58. Avatar for KevDog
    KevDog October 21st, 2010

    In honor of the Lewis and Clark expedition: Packagawea
    But seriously, the given names suck. So let me make a serious suggestion I came up with while thinking about names this morning: Modularizer.
    It's descriptive, it's cooler than any of the given names. And since I liked the name regardless of whether it gets used or not, I registered the domain and would be happy to donate it to the cause.

  59. Avatar for Jarrod Marshall
    Jarrod Marshall October 21st, 2010

    NBubbleWrap

  60. Avatar for The Luddite Developer
    The Luddite Developer October 21st, 2010

    Hmmmmmmmmm...
    A New Package Manager, what to call it? NuPack? Apparently not.
    Pacman? What do you mean its already taken?
    Well what about Packman? Too Close to Pacman?
    HaackMan? Too personal?
    Get Me Code - GMC - more about trucks.
    MSVSPM - We all know how much Microsoft like acronyms (Microsoft Visual Studio Package Manager)
    GuPack (named after that red polo) still too personal?
    RedPolo? - does RedPolo have a chance? - All .net developers will think that they have their very own guy in a red polo running around fetching their code.
    OK naming stuff is a bit more difficult than first imagined, especially Big Company Stuff.
    Just call it Brian.

  61. Avatar for robert
    robert October 21st, 2010

    k, my vote is for nbacon, nbacon.com is available. bacon! bacon! bacon! Everybody loves bacon.

  62. Avatar for Daniel
    Daniel October 21st, 2010

    +1 for NuPack being better than the names listed in this post

  63. Avatar for Matt
    Matt October 21st, 2010

    Guess MS could have used this link before picking the original name http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/?q=~nupack

  64. Avatar for Mike
    Mike October 21st, 2010

    I guess FudgePack isn't a good one either?

  65. Avatar for Jonx
    Jonx October 21st, 2010

    Those are still free:
    uupack.com
    vupack.com
    qupack.com
    wupack.com
    xupack.com
    zupack.com
    The first two are my favorite...

  66. Avatar for haacked
    haacked October 21st, 2010

    Hi All, I'm seeing a lot of questions being repeated. I followed up with a new blog post that provides more details.

  67. Avatar for Jason Bock
    Jason Bock October 21st, 2010

    My suggestion would have been: NStall
    ;)

  68. Avatar for Mohamed Meligy
    Mohamed Meligy October 21st, 2010

    hmm..
    - No "Nu" because so many future users will wonder what this is.
    - No "Iron" because this is not a DLR related project. Much confusion will come.
    - No "N" prefix unless you really want to hint people this is ported from other platforms. This is no longer the case for many apps with similar naming but still I may think so when reading such name.
    - No "Fetch" or words that need better explanation of the job of the thing
    Then what? Really couldn't think of something sold enough. Maybe ".NET Package Explorer"? It should be as easy and straight forward as this (without more geekiness or special name parts). Not saying it should be exactly this one though, but you get the idea...

  69. Avatar for Mike
    Mike October 22nd, 2010

    I knew this would happen the moment it was announced. Microsoft either comes up with names like Extended Package Manager Professional 2010 Live or something like NuPack.
    Outercurve is pretty silly too. Funny, since I think Codeplex is a really good name.
    Anyway, I'm not voting, new names are silly too.

  70. Avatar for ashic
    ashic October 22nd, 2010

    hibernate--> NHibernate
    gems--> NGems

  71. Avatar for Örjan
    Örjan October 22nd, 2010

    NetGet
    SharpPack
    NoDllHell

  72. Avatar for MoonMan
    MoonMan October 23rd, 2010
  73. Avatar for William
    William October 25th, 2010

    No need to change. Leave it as is. NuPack is my vote.