MvcFutures And ASP.NET MVC Beta

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UPDATE: The MVC Futures assembly, Microsoft.Web.Mvc is available on CodePlex.

Wanted to provide a quick heads up about the MvcFutures assembly within ASP.NET MVC CodePlex Preview 5. As mentioned in various places, this assembly contains various experimental features we are considering for future versions of ASP.NET MVC.

When we release the BETA for ASP.NET MVC, it will not automatically be included in the project template by the installer. We’ve included it in the various previews for convenience, but we want the BETA installer to be as close to the RTM installer experience as possible.

We will make sure that the assembly remains available on CodePlex. I just wanted to make you aware of this so there is no surprises when we release the Beta regarding this. Thanks!

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  1. Avatar for sixYo
    sixYo September 5th, 2008

    Good news!!
    Thanks !

  2. Avatar for Vijay Santhanam
    Vijay Santhanam September 5th, 2008

    Does a beta release you guys are going to stop changing and evolving the core MVC Api?
    Is there any ground left to cover before a beta release?

  3. Avatar for Ervin
    Ervin September 5th, 2008

    Yea. Better seperation with this.

  4. Avatar for Steve
    Steve September 6th, 2008

    You should include it in the install and simply include the language you have here.
    I don't like the idea that we all go fishing around to find some assembly that others will be using, blogging about, etc...
    Again, please just include it in the installation package...

  5. Avatar for haacked
    haacked September 6th, 2008

    @Steve if only it were that easy. :) We have a high quality and compatibility bar for RTM releases. We don't have the time or resources to get the MvcFutures to that quality bar for our 1.0 release. Many of those features will make it into the next version though.
    I can put this disclaimer in the installer, but it probably wouldn't help. I think it would cause more angst and confusion if someone calls support for a problem they have with the MVC framework only to find out that it was in the unsupported assembly and not the supported assembly. If the unsupported assembly is a separate download, then there's a clearer separation of what is considered supported and what is not.

  6. Avatar for Steve
    Steve September 7th, 2008

    ok, so if I use it now, in beta it won't work?
    See the delimna for your customer?
    ie. "we've put these great features in, but chances are we won't include them because it won't meet our high quality...even though our customer asked to at least leave the assembly in the install for those that wish to continue to use it..."
    I wish I could tell my customers that - must be nice to sit on that throne :)

  7. Avatar for James L
    James L September 7th, 2008

    Steve, I think you're being unreasonable.
    It ain't ready til it's ready. It's as simple as that.

  8. Avatar for Simone Chiaretta
    Simone Chiaretta September 7th, 2008

    Talking about Beta levels, did you come up with a solution for the "VS vanishing when opening a P5 view" bug?

  9. Avatar for Shiju Varghese
    Shiju Varghese September 7th, 2008

    Hi Phil,
    Good news. When can we expect the beta release?

  10. Avatar for John Griffiths
    John Griffiths September 7th, 2008

    sounds like a plan, better to have something you can depend upon rather than a lot of grey areas to avoid; good work.
    is there a more fuller document or cheat-sheet available somewhere that lists all the helper functions you can use in the view?

  11. Avatar for Steve
    Steve September 7th, 2008

    I have re-read and see that the assembly will be available on codeplex, so that is reasonable to me.
    Thanks
    (I was going to recommend possibly using mvccontrib)

  12. Avatar for glompix
    glompix September 7th, 2008

    If you're already using the futures assembly, then you're probably keeping up with this kind of news anyway. No big deal and thanks for the heads up!

  13. Avatar for redsquare
    redsquare September 7th, 2008

    @Simone, I had this issue, I uninstalled power commands and can now open views!

  14. Avatar for Simone Chiaretta
    Simone Chiaretta September 7th, 2008

    @redsquare: I uninstalled them (actually I didn't have them installed, but TFS powertools) and nothing changed

  15. Avatar for Louis
    Louis September 8th, 2008

    Does this also we're nearing the CTP event horizon? Or should we more likely expect Preview 6 or 7 down the line?

  16. Avatar for haacked
    haacked September 9th, 2008

    @Louis Our plan is that the next release will be the Beta and we won't have Preview 6 or 7. At least I hope so. :)

  17. Avatar for Chance
    Chance September 9th, 2008

    After this beta release, are you guys going to change gears from feature-changing launches to optimizing & bug-squashing releases?
    Btw - thanks for the heads up.

  18. Avatar for neil martin
    neil martin September 13th, 2008

    at last i can get away from monorail.

  19. Avatar for eniac
    eniac September 13th, 2008

    In response to Simone. I found the same VS crash problem. It possibly originates with the Power Commands plugin. Try uninstalling power commands or starting visual studio in safe mode, i.e. devenv.exe /SafeMode

  20. Avatar for Dhinch
    Dhinch September 15th, 2008

    Woop!!
    Beta next release... cant wait.
    Any ideas on timescales for release?
    I cant bear the anticipation any longer.

  21. Avatar for Tim Van Wassenhove
    Tim Van Wassenhove September 16th, 2008

    @Simone & eniac: I experienced the crashes too, uninstalled Power Commands and can confirm that the crashes have disappeared.

  22. Avatar for Shadowman
    Shadowman September 16th, 2008

    Thanks for all the work Phil! Looking forward to the the beta. Also, any thoughts on including Live ID integration in the standard project?

  23. Avatar for celik
    celik September 20th, 2008

    Looking forward for MVC beta.

  24. Avatar for Jonathon Kresner
    Jonathon Kresner September 21st, 2008

    I wish you guys didn't drop the strongly type generic action links into futures, they are awesome! None the less, seeing how the framework has evolved at every step of the way I've come to love MS's implementation of Mvc. It has lead to some seriously rapid dev for me and my team, seriously looking forward to beta, you guys have done a wicked job!

  25. Avatar for Roger Chapman
    Roger Chapman October 15th, 2008

    Now that the beta HAS been released; where on the codeproject site can I actually download the MvcFutures? It's a maze!
    Thanks in advance.

  26. Avatar for Roger Chapman
    Roger Chapman October 15th, 2008

    "codeproject"!!!??? I Meant to say CodePlex!

  27. Avatar for Adrian Phillips
    Adrian Phillips October 15th, 2008

    Hi, we've installed the beta and we can see a System.Web.Mvc v1.0.0.0 DLL in the GAC. But it doesn't appear when adding a reference in Visual Studio 2008, is anyone else seeing the same thing?

  28. Avatar for Geoff
    Geoff November 19th, 2008

    I'm having the same problem. After installing MVC beta, I can't see it to add as a a reference in Visual Studio.

  29. Avatar for haacked
    haacked November 20th, 2008

    @Geoff You probably need to use the newer version of the MVC Futures assembly.