Mix07 I Am Terrible At Being Interviewed

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Yesterday, while hanging out in the so called “BlogZone”, Tim Heuer pulled me aside for a audio short interview on the topic of Subtext and Open Source, two things I love to talk about and good luck getting me to shut up once you get me started. ;)

This was a surprise for me as the last time I was interviewed was by a reporter for my college paper after my soccer team used the school paper to dry windows for a fund raising car wash. I told the reporter that the paper was good for drying windows because they don’t leave streaks. I was merely relaying what someone told me when they went to grab the papers, but my teammates all congratulated for sticking it to the paper. Funny how that works out sometimes.

Back to the present, I cringed while listening to the interview as I learned I’m much less eloquent than I hoped I would be in a situation. Apparently I suffer from the “You Know” disease that Atwood suffers from. This is simply due to my nervousness at being interviewed along with the fact that we were in a very noisy room surrounded by a lot of distractions (yes, this is me making excuses).

Not only that, there’s a point in the interview where I seem to lose focus and stammer. That’s because Scott Hanselman was calling me and I wasn’t sure whether to stop and give him directions to the BlogZone or continue. As you can hear, I continue and he found it just fine.

Unfortunately, there’s a lot more I would’ve liked to have said. Upon being asked about whether the community has chipped into Subtext, I started off with the example of recent committs related to the build server and mentioned a couple of people. I was just getting warmed up and didn’t get a chance to mention many others who have contributed. I apologize, but the interview probably would’ve gone on for hours if I had the proper time to express my appreciation to the Subtext developers and community.

The lesson learned for me is to slow down, take a deep breath, and don’t be afraid to take a moment to collect my thoughts. Don’t be afraid of dead air when speaking publicly.

In any case, Tim, I enjoyed being interviewed. I personally think you have a talent for it and would have done a much better job than the painful interview we were subjected to during the keynote. Seriously, they should’ve had you up there asking Ray and Scott questions.

In case you didn’t know, Tim contributed what is probably the most popular skin to Subtext, Origami.

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23 responses

  1. Avatar for Sean Chambers
    Sean Chambers April 30th, 2007

    Much better than if I would have been interviewed. You do say "You Know" alot =)
    Better than saying, "uhh"!!

  2. Avatar for Andy Stopford
    Andy Stopford April 30th, 2007

    You well you know, so swore when your phone rang :P ;-)

  3. Avatar for Robbie
    Robbie April 30th, 2007

    You know, I often have the same problem.

  4. Avatar for Don Demsak
    Don Demsak April 30th, 2007

    I have felt your pain. Some folks just make it look so easy (Hansleman, Sells, Box, etc.) that you figure, hey if they can do it, so can I. But, they just make it look easy. I've found that a good post production team (like the .Net Rocks team) will make you sound a lot better, but most podcasts/audio interviews don't have the budget for that sort of post production work.
    And then there is dealing with the various print media (online or magazine). You have to be extra careful what you say to them, because they will just take snippets of your statements, and out of context it can sound very different than what you actually meant. It's bad enough that Word can't figure out what I meant to say, instead of just using what I typed. A reporter can really twist your words to say what they want, not what you intended.
    Don Demsak

  5. Avatar for Karthik
    Karthik April 30th, 2007

    No worries dude. I'm right there with you...can't orate very well because I think better in written words.
    No one ever said that great writers are great orators. Most people are generally very good at one or the other. Rarely do you find someone who can do both exceptionally well.

  6. Avatar for Keyvan Nayyeri
    Keyvan Nayyeri April 30th, 2007

    Tim knows, Tim knows, Tim knows, Tim knows, ... :-D
    I know this pain very well. Next time you won't say "You know" again, be sure ;-)

  7. Avatar for Scott
    Scott May 1st, 2007

    Did you blurt out "nipples" or "vulva" during the interview?
    Next time, think of the "giggle loop" during an interview.

  8. Avatar for Keyvan Nayyeri
    Keyvan Nayyeri May 1st, 2007

    As I had noted on my army blog I began my military service in new organization (named Etka) on Sunday

  9. Avatar for Sean Chambers
    Sean Chambers May 1st, 2007

    ahh the giggle loop is great!!!

  10. Avatar for Andy Stopford
    Andy Stopford May 1st, 2007

    oh I know!

  11. Avatar for Haacked
    Haacked May 1st, 2007

    I am planning, you know, to start, you know, writing the way I speak. You know what they say, you should find your , you know, voice when you write. You know.

  12. Avatar for CodeClimber
    CodeClimber May 1st, 2007

    Phil Haack interviewed on OpenSource

  13. Avatar for Andy Stopford
    Andy Stopford May 1st, 2007

    you know, well said Phil, you know.
    (I'll stop ribbing ya now Phil ;-)

    you know

  14. Avatar for Haacked
    Haacked May 1st, 2007

    That's it. I'm switching back to NUnit.

    You know.

  15. Avatar for Andy Stopford
    Andy Stopford May 1st, 2007

    you know, only kidding with ya Phil

    you know


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    Maury May 3rd, 2007

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  17. Avatar for Scott Dorman
    Scott Dorman May 4th, 2007

    Phil Haack (Subtext) Podcast interview

  18. Avatar for Scott
    Scott May 7th, 2007

    What the heck? Did you just get blog spammed by ... Microsoft?

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    you've been HAACKED May 13th, 2007

    Is Fighting Open Source With Patents A Smart Move By Microsoft?

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    Community Blogs May 13th, 2007

    Fortune Magazine published an article in which they describe how Microsoft claims that free software,

  21. Avatar for CodeClimber
    CodeClimber May 17th, 2007

    Simone's BrainDump

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    you've been HAACKED May 22nd, 2007

    I'll Be Speaking About Open Source at OpenForce

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    Community Blogs May 22nd, 2007

    I’ve been invited to participate on a couple of panels at the upcoming DotNetNuke OpenForce '07 conference