We’re Renaming NuPack

UPDATE: The new name is NuGet

The NuPack project is undergoing a rename and we need your help! For details, read the announcement about the rename on the Outercurve Foundation’s blog.

What is the new name?

We don’t know. You tell us! The NuPack project team brainstormed a set of names and narrowed down the list to four names.

I’ve posted a set of names as issues in our NuPack CodePlex.com site and will ask you to vote for your favorite name among the lot. Vote for as many as you want, but realize that if you vote for all of them, you’ve just cancelled your vote. Winking smile

Here are the choices:

Voting will close at 10/26 at 11:59 PM.

What others have said

Requesting Gravatar... Bryan Oct 21, 2010 10:33 AM
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This is a joke right? Those are our choices? I vote you don't change the name, all of those are terrible.
Requesting Gravatar... Eric Oct 21, 2010 10:50 AM
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Wow I would rather have my ballz ripped off than choose one of those choices, seriously awful! I refuse to choose one of those!
Requesting Gravatar... Joshua Oct 21, 2010 11:08 AM
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Ok. I hate to be a bad citizen but really, those names are AWFUL. I also vote no name change. None of those names have anything close to a good feel. Sorry guys but my opinion is this effort is a massive fail.
Requesting Gravatar... Matt Oct 21, 2010 11:14 AM
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I was never a big fan of NuPack, but these names are even worse! Is this a joke? Those seriously can't be the best names that you guys came up with.
Requesting Gravatar... Alistair Oct 21, 2010 11:30 AM
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Yeah those suck.
Requesting Gravatar... Jeff Oct 21, 2010 11:43 AM
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Eh, NFetch isn't so bad; it's got a nice ring to it and it brands well all the other dotnet "Nxxx" projects out there.
Requesting Gravatar... Michael Stum Oct 21, 2010 11:45 AM
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Don't want to be too harsh, especially since you're not the one to blame, but I have to agree, they aren't really good. SnapFetch actually isn't that bad, it's just a bad name for a Packaging System IMHO. Same for NFetch. DotNetPack and OuterPack are just uninspired and Bland :(

I know, no suggestions, but I still make some, e.g. the PowerShell-styled "Get-Packages", or something that has Repo(sitory) in it. Or something that's really made up. "Parcels"? "NetLets" (inspired by CmdLets)? "FuncBits"? (Functional Bits, as in Bits and Pieces).

I don't know, all I can say is: I really recommend taking another shot at this.
Requesting Gravatar... Jason Watts Oct 21, 2010 12:23 PM
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If its like apt-get, then rename it net-get

If its supposed to work like gems, then ngems

Requesting Gravatar... John Sheehan Oct 21, 2010 12:24 PM
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SnapPack (the .com and .org are both parked and I bet they could be obtained)
Requesting Gravatar... Ian Warrington Oct 21, 2010 12:28 PM
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How about "GuPack" ;)
Requesting Gravatar... JD Oct 21, 2010 1:11 PM
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This must a publicity stunt - like the GAP logo thing.
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Oct 21, 2010 1:18 PM
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@JohnSheehan a parked domain can cost several grand. I wish it were just a publicity stunt. It's hard finding a good name.
Requesting Gravatar... fschwiet Oct 21, 2010 1:52 PM
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Something can be said for having a name like similar tools from other platforms. Its worked well for NUnit, PSake, NHibernate, etc...
Requesting Gravatar... Gabe Oct 21, 2010 2:06 PM
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I agree that all of these are worse than NuPack.
Requesting Gravatar... Craig Oct 21, 2010 2:37 PM
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As I mentioned on OuterCurve, I think nFetch is the most conventional and self explanatory.

As someone who has tried naming a startup before, I sympathise.
Requesting Gravatar... OmariO Oct 21, 2010 2:43 PM
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Ninclude
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Oct 21, 2010 2:53 PM
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What do you think of Pakkeji?
Requesting Gravatar... Martin Oct 21, 2010 3:22 PM
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After reading the announcement explaining the background of this renaming snafu, I suggest you simply revert back to the original name "NPack". It's simple and consistent with the NWhatever thing you've got going on, and it makes sense given it's a packaging system. What could be more perfect?

NPack, NPack, NPack.

You had it right the first time. You know you did.

Requesting Gravatar... Adam Oct 21, 2010 3:22 PM
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Could go for the Russell Brand approach:

Haack's Paacky Whaack

But I guess things that sound like open source projects works aswell.

NDubz did it when they stopped producing their music in Java and used .NET Framework insted. NHybernate isn't on iTunes yet.

What about SubPack? Sounds slightly healthier than McPack.
Requesting Gravatar... Henning Kilset Oct 21, 2010 3:31 PM
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I seriously urge you to reconsider those names. NUPack is a TON better than the ones you have suggested.

I suggest DotStream, LibStream, or NetFetch.
Requesting Gravatar... Phillip Oct 21, 2010 3:33 PM
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Absolutely rubbish names.
Requesting Gravatar... Mads Oct 21, 2010 3:58 PM
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NuPack is better than the suggested names.
I think you should un-announce the renaming ;)

But wait... what about: Microsoft .NET Visual Studio Package Download Foundation Add-in?
Requesting Gravatar... Ryan Heath Oct 21, 2010 3:58 PM
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I did not lookup if it meets all the criteria, but how about
uNpack? ;)

// Ryan
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Oct 21, 2010 4:16 PM
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@Martin well there was already a project named NPack at http://npack.codeplex.com/. Also, npack.com is taken.
Requesting Gravatar... Knoxy Oct 21, 2010 4:18 PM
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@Martin I'm with you, was about to suggest it myself :)

NPack.
Requesting Gravatar... Knoxy Oct 21, 2010 4:27 PM
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@Phil Sorry, posted before I saw your 2 minute earlier comment about NPack :)
Requesting Gravatar... Drazen Dotlic Oct 21, 2010 4:44 PM
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All of the proposed names are horrible. If you insist that these are our only choices... well, shucks then I guess, I vote for none of them.

If you wanted us to propose a name... then I'd rather have NCase, but that's also taken... damn. I feel your pain, but again, those proposed names are worse than nupack.
Requesting Gravatar... Gabriel Oct 21, 2010 5:02 PM
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Maybe it is better to propose other 5 names to choose from...
I vote for none of the proposed names and NuPack sounds better :)
Requesting Gravatar... Nick Oct 21, 2010 5:04 PM
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Phil,

I'm your biggest fan. I love Microsoft. But...these names stink like rotten fish.

Please....don't embarrass the community.
Requesting Gravatar... GP Oct 21, 2010 5:04 PM
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Hmmm...I like NuGet.
Requesting Gravatar... redsquare Oct 21, 2010 5:05 PM
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FUBUPack
Requesting Gravatar... Ivan K Oct 21, 2010 5:06 PM
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What about PackMan name? :)
Or dotPackMan
Requesting Gravatar... Alex Oct 21, 2010 5:08 PM
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Guys, let's go for a brainstorm here
nupackname.uservoice.com/forums/82621-general
Requesting Gravatar... Cyril Gupta Oct 21, 2010 5:13 PM
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Lol. :D

You look at all the comments from all the programmers and you still need to wonder why software doesn't get made?

The instructions are clear yet nobody is following them. :P

Why, we're like art critics now!

I vote for NFetch. (It's the best of a sorry lot).

See guys, wasn't this simple?
Requesting Gravatar... Matt Oct 21, 2010 5:14 PM
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You'll almost always add a reference to the packaged code so nRef?
Requesting Gravatar... Alex Oct 21, 2010 5:20 PM
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Pak
Requesting Gravatar... Anonymous Coward Oct 21, 2010 5:23 PM
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From the four - NFetch

New - pacaroni
Requesting Gravatar... Thomas Eyde Oct 21, 2010 5:28 PM
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I would have voted for NGem.
Requesting Gravatar... Clayton Firth Oct 21, 2010 5:43 PM
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NPack... it's the best of a bad lot.
Requesting Gravatar... Shawn Miller Oct 21, 2010 5:44 PM
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How about Cargo?

"Cargo (or freight) is goods or produce transported, generally for commercial gain, by ship, aircraft, train, van or truck. In modern times, containers are used in most intermodal long-haul cargo transport."
Requesting Gravatar... Jaans Oct 21, 2010 5:54 PM
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If we have to change, here's some 2c brain dumps...

NPack +1
.Pack / dotPack
RefPac / RefPack / .Ref / NRef(as in reference package).
Pallet
Requesting Gravatar... Stebet Oct 21, 2010 6:10 PM
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Out of those I think NFetch is the best.

Shame.. I liked the NuPack name :(
Requesting Gravatar... Dave Arkley Oct 21, 2010 6:25 PM
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I'll vote for NInclude, does what it says on the tin and (IMHO) quite snappy.
Requesting Gravatar... ILog Oct 21, 2010 6:25 PM
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+1 for Cargo - short, recognizable, meaningful
Requesting Gravatar... Cassio R. Eskelsen Oct 21, 2010 7:03 PM
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Rob Conery have a good suggestion, compatible with Microsoft Branding Style Guidelines: "Microsoft .NET Live Code Delivery Platform Installer" ( http://goo.gl/tD7X )
Requesting Gravatar... Darek Oct 21, 2010 7:03 PM
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I suggest: Visual Studio Packing Utility For .Net Developers Enterprise Edition

To be serious i suggest: VsPack because it works with Visual Stuido :-)
Requesting Gravatar... gliljas Oct 21, 2010 8:01 PM
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Trying to be civil about it, but it's hard. NuPack is soooo much better. Part of the allure of "gem" is that sounds cute and works well as a noun. "There's a gem for that"!

Therefore I really like one suggestion by "GP" above, "NuGet", which could easily be transformed into "nugget" (maybe in pronunciation only). "I'll just get a couple of nuggets to complete this task".

Requesting Gravatar... hwiechers Oct 21, 2010 8:17 PM
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Keep the current name. Renaming it will just cause confusion and this is all just bikeshedding anyway.
Requesting Gravatar... ulu Oct 21, 2010 8:26 PM
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NuPamelaAndersonPack?
Requesting Gravatar... Alex Oct 21, 2010 8:38 PM
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Two options missing:


.NET Package Manager Windows Edition


Visual DotNet FetchSafe Suite


Requesting Gravatar... James Manning Oct 21, 2010 9:12 PM
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Is that cut-off in PDT? :)

IMHO NFoo implies a 'port' of the Foo project? (NHibernate, obviously, being a/the prime example)

In the most civilized manner possible, I'll add 2 more names for no real reason (since the finalists are already chosen :)

#1 - since it's not about fetching arbitrary packages (we're not installing applications AFAICT, in contrast to what apt/dpkg/rpm/etc can do), focus on the role of 'get this dependency' - ***DepFetch*** (google shows it not having any obvious usage currently)

#2 - gem makes sense for ruby (obviously). In similar fashion, we could find a name based on the Iron* line of naming (especially as a show of support as those teams have suffered). Combined with a focus on simplicity, and inspired by my son's favorite movie (Cars), we get Rust-eze or ***RustEze*** (PascalCasing for Anders reasons :). We even get a Billy Mays-like tag line for free: 'Bringing you libraries with the Power of Oxygen!' ... there are shorter, dorkier versions around too, of course, like 'Some assemblies required' :)
Requesting Gravatar... Nick Oct 21, 2010 9:13 PM
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Go for NPack is better than the suggested names.
Requesting Gravatar... Slavo Oct 21, 2010 9:17 PM
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Question. How many people have to comment on the absurdness of the choices given, in order for the team to realize that the factors for choosing the name would never result in a good name?

Just ask Jeff Atwood what happened when he let the community brainstorm names for their newly launched stack exchange sites, but limited the suggestions to those with a domain available. He launched, and then reverted the name (and redirected the domain). At least he had the courage to do so. With NuPack I don't think it's gonna revert, no matter how bad it is. Sadness.
Requesting Gravatar... Sandor Drieënhuizen Oct 21, 2010 9:25 PM
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How about NCourier?

I think the physical package delivery analogy matches the project's purpose quite well.
Requesting Gravatar... Alan Stevens Oct 21, 2010 9:31 PM
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sNatch
Requesting Gravatar... Nelak Oct 21, 2010 9:45 PM
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Why not IronPack!!! :D
Requesting Gravatar... Emad Ibrahim Oct 21, 2010 10:02 PM
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I agree these names suck :)

I vote for no name change or nPack.

Off-topic: why not learn from Mercurial and make your commands less verbose e.g. add instead of add-package, list instead of list-packages, etc... maybe even np instead of nupack or npack. so you can do things like

np list
np add

etc... less typing = no carpel tunnel = good

Nice work though and I will try and contribute whenever I have time.
Requesting Gravatar... KevDog Oct 21, 2010 10:08 PM
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In honor of the Lewis and Clark expedition: Packagawea

But seriously, the given names suck. So let me make a serious suggestion I came up with while thinking about names this morning: Modularizer.

It's descriptive, it's cooler than any of the given names. And since I liked the name regardless of whether it gets used or not, I registered the domain and would be happy to donate it to the cause.
Requesting Gravatar... Jarrod Marshall Oct 21, 2010 10:43 PM
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NBubbleWrap
Requesting Gravatar... The Luddite Developer Oct 21, 2010 10:47 PM
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Hmmmmmmmmm...

A New Package Manager, what to call it? NuPack? Apparently not.

Pacman? What do you mean its already taken?

Well what about Packman? Too Close to Pacman?

HaackMan? Too personal?

Get Me Code - GMC - more about trucks.

MSVSPM - We all know how much Microsoft like acronyms (Microsoft Visual Studio Package Manager)

GuPack (named after that red polo) still too personal?

RedPolo? - does RedPolo have a chance? - All .net developers will think that they have their very own guy in a red polo running around fetching their code.

OK naming stuff is a bit more difficult than first imagined, especially Big Company Stuff.

Just call it Brian.

Requesting Gravatar... robert Oct 21, 2010 10:51 PM
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k, my vote is for nbacon, nbacon.com is available. bacon! bacon! bacon! Everybody loves bacon.
Requesting Gravatar... Daniel Oct 21, 2010 11:24 PM
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+1 for NuPack being better than the names listed in this post
Requesting Gravatar... Matt Oct 21, 2010 11:28 PM
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Guess MS could have used this link before picking the original name http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/?q=~nupack
Requesting Gravatar... Mike Oct 21, 2010 11:54 PM
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I guess FudgePack isn't a good one either?
Requesting Gravatar... Jonx Oct 22, 2010 1:19 AM
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Those are still free:
uupack.com
vupack.com

qupack.com
wupack.com
xupack.com
zupack.com

The first two are my favorite...
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Oct 22, 2010 1:20 AM
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Hi All, I'm seeing a lot of questions being repeated. I followed up with a new blog post that provides more details.
Requesting Gravatar... Jason Bock Oct 22, 2010 2:42 AM
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My suggestion would have been: NStall

;)
Requesting Gravatar... Mohamed Meligy Oct 22, 2010 2:48 AM
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hmm..
- No "Nu" because so many future users will wonder what this is.
- No "Iron" because this is not a DLR related project. Much confusion will come.
- No "N" prefix unless you really want to hint people this is ported from other platforms. This is no longer the case for many apps with similar naming but still I may think so when reading such name.
- No "Fetch" or words that need better explanation of the job of the thing

Then what? Really couldn't think of something sold enough. Maybe ".NET Package Explorer"? It should be as easy and straight forward as this (without more geekiness or special name parts). Not saying it should be exactly this one though, but you get the idea...
Requesting Gravatar... Mike Oct 22, 2010 4:03 AM
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I knew this would happen the moment it was announced. Microsoft either comes up with names like Extended Package Manager Professional 2010 Live or something like NuPack.

Outercurve is pretty silly too. Funny, since I think Codeplex is a really good name.

Anyway, I'm not voting, new names are silly too.
Requesting Gravatar... ashic Oct 22, 2010 4:05 AM
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hibernate--> NHibernate
gems--> NGems
Requesting Gravatar... Örjan Oct 22, 2010 8:15 AM
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NetGet
SharpPack
NoDllHell
Requesting Gravatar... MoonMan Oct 23, 2010 11:39 PM
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nsetup.net
Requesting Gravatar... William Oct 25, 2010 6:02 AM
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No need to change. Leave it as is. NuPack is my vote.
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