Poll on Moving Subtext To ASP.NET 3.5

• Nov 28, 2008
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How many of you out there who use Subtext host it on a hosting provider who does not have ASP.NET 3.5 available? I’d like to make the next version of Subtext 2 take a dependency on 3.5. Note that it wouldn’t have to take a dependency on SP1. Just ASP.NET 3.5 proper as I believe most hosting providers support it.

If you’re stuck with a hosting provider who only supports ASP.NET 2.0 and not 3.5, do leave a comment.

Note that we’re still in the planning stages for Subtext 3, which will be built on ASP.NET MVC. In the meantime, I still plan to update Subtext 2.*. In fact, much of the work we will do for Subtext 3 may be prototyped in 2.* and ported over.

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Andrei Rinea Nov 28, 2008 1:43 AM

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My hoster has IIS7 with ASP.NET 3.5SP1 and I've deployed succesfully even MVC apps (placing the three assemblies - Abstractions, Routing and Mvc - in the bin folder).

Tudor Nov 28, 2008 2:27 AM

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Unfortunately, there are still many hosting providers which offer only .NET Framework 2.0 (mainly because Windows 2003 Server R2 comes with .NET 2.0 included, while 3.0 or 3.5 must be installed separately), so it's still early to move on to 3.5.

Maybe when most hosting providers will upgrade to Windows 2008 Server (which includes only .NET 3.0, maybe 2008 SP1 will include 3.5), but this won't happen too soon, I'm afraid..

Vijay Santhanam Nov 28, 2008 3:51 AM

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Upgrade! Take a dep on the latest bits.

Can't wait to see how you design4extensibility into Subtext for v2

Alex Nov 28, 2008 4:06 AM

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Running 3.5 SP1 @ IIS7 - Ready for action! ;-)

Christian Schiffer Nov 28, 2008 5:04 AM

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Running 3.5 SP1 @ IIS7 - Ready for action too! ;-)

Michael McGovern Nov 28, 2008 5:37 AM

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Lack of true 3.5 support is the only thing that is keeping me from switching back to your otherwise excellent blogging platform.

Stefano Demiliani Nov 28, 2008 6:44 AM

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Having Subtext on ASP.NET 3.5 will be a great idea and a great changement. I can agree that not all the service providers are ready for ASP.NET 3.5, so YES for the movement for the 3.0 version, but keep available the ASP.NET 2.0 versions for a while.

James Thigpen Nov 28, 2008 7:31 AM

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Even my el cheapo 10$/mo shared hosting package supports ASP.NET 3.5. It's hardly a premium feature these days.

Magnus Mårtensson Nov 28, 2008 7:37 AM

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+1 for ASP 3.5 ;~)

Robert G Nov 28, 2008 10:36 AM

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Phil,

While it's true that some or most of the providers don't support 3.5, by the time S2 is out, they most likely will be.

haacked Nov 28, 2008 10:45 AM

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@Robert, Subtext 2 is already out. We just released 2.1. :)

Robert G Nov 28, 2008 2:47 PM

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Doh. Forgot to take my morning meds. You know what I meant.

labilbe Nov 28, 2008 4:10 PM

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+1 for ASP.Net 3.5

Pawel Pabich Nov 28, 2008 4:44 PM

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All major hosting companies offer .NET 3.5.

Charles Nurse Nov 28, 2008 10:11 PM

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The problem is not whether hosting proiders offer ASP.NET 3.5 - most do. But, and this is important, usually only for new accounts. If you are on a box with ASP.NET 2 installed and it is full, then you will likely need to get your site moved to a new box to get 3.5 - they won't upgrade a full server box.

Jorriss Nov 29, 2008 7:54 AM

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3.5 SP1 sounds great!

Michael McGovern Nov 29, 2008 7:58 AM

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@ Charles Nurse; Why not? Adding 3,5 to a full box only allows the users to take advantage of 3.5. It will not take anything from them.

yazılım Nov 29, 2008 2:49 PM

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ASP.NET 3.5 SP1 on IIS 7

WebDevVote Nov 29, 2008 6:29 PM

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Julian Birch Nov 30, 2008 1:50 AM

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Lunarpages, sadly, is still tied to .NET 2.0.

Mike Swim Nov 30, 2008 11:15 AM

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Go ahead and upgrade. We've already gone to 3.5.

Paul Green Nov 30, 2008 12:58 PM

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This reminds me of the PHP4 - PHP5 hosting. Do ASP hosts not allow you to have both available. For PHP, a lot of hosts allow you to switch between PHP4 and 5 using a server config file.

Jon Galloway Nov 30, 2008 6:54 PM

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You know what I'll say... upgrade!!!

Nobody's stuck with their hosting providers, and there are plenty of hosters that offer .NET 3.5 for less than $10/month.

Steve Hiner Nov 30, 2008 8:31 PM

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My host provides Win 2k8 and ASP.NET 3.5 but they charge more for it. Despite that I think you should switch to 3.5. I don't mind not upgrading and I'd love to see what you can do with the 2.0 shackles taken off.

Roy Dec 01, 2008 8:25 AM

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Why don't you dump it and start from scratch.

SubText is so over-engineered. I looked through the source code and so many developers in bits and pieces here and there have turned the code base into Spaghetti code.

How do you guys even manage to keep the releases in control ? something like this would drive me (and most real developers) mad !

haacked Dec 01, 2008 11:18 AM

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@Roy we are planning to start from scratch, but I still want to release incremental updates in the meanwhile. Some of the new work can be ported over to the rewrite. Doing a rewrite is a non-trivial task for an OSS project in which everybody has a day job and has to devote their free time to work on it. The point being that it will take a long time to get a rewrite release out.

Jeny Young Dec 01, 2008 6:38 PM

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+1 for ASP.NET 3.5+

Charles Nurse Dec 01, 2008 9:59 PM

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@Michael McGovern - Because they are of the philosophy that if it ain't broke don't fix it. Any addition of new components poses a risk - and if the server is sold out then what does it gain them?

This is not theoretical - it has happened to me.

Minhajuddin Dec 01, 2008 11:50 PM

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I don't host my blog on Subtext, But I am very excited about the change in framework from web forms to MVC. I am interested in contributing for the development of Subtext for MVC.

Lorn Dec 03, 2008 11:49 PM

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.NET 3.5?
Don't do that,I am afraid.

Jeff Ancel Dec 04, 2008 3:11 PM

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NET 3.5 is good for me. I wrote my site on MVC but don't think I am going to go further now that I hear that this will be going MVC can't wait to hear more.

haacked Dec 15, 2008 1:49 PM

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I've recompiled Subtext 2.1 for ASP.NET 3.5. Download it here and try it out.

Dave Schinkel Feb 17, 2009 7:36 PM

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Cannot wait. Discountasp has .NET 3.5 and will most likely have 4.0 very soon once that comes out. No reason not to move the next version to the latest NOW.

Dave Schinkel Feb 17, 2009 7:37 PM

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Any word on when you guys are recoding it to MVC?

Jens Melgaard Mar 31, 2009 5:51 AM

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I Think ill be able to get up and running with 3.5, at least my hosting provider sells the web hotel I am registered with as having support for: "ASP.NET 3.5 (medium trust)", currently my config won't let me choose it though, but it's properly just a request I need to make.

I Would really like to hear about the real benefits of moving up... If there's no fundamental benefits, then I would not let all those stuck on 2.0 down. (MVC already seems to be something you are waiting for v3 with so).

Ken Apr 07, 2009 5:58 AM

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Still dealing with the installation of subtext 2.1
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