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MvcFutures And ASP.NET MVC Beta

UPDATE: The MVC Futures assembly, Microsoft.Web.Mvc is available on CodePlex.

Wanted to provide a quick heads up about the MvcFutures assembly within ASP.NET MVC CodePlex Preview 5. As mentioned in various places, this assembly contains various experimental features we are considering for future versions of ASP.NET MVC.

When we release the BETA for ASP.NET MVC, it will not automatically be included in the project template by the installer. We’ve included it in the various previews for convenience, but we want the BETA installer to be as close to the RTM installer experience as possible.

We will make sure that the assembly remains available on CodePlex. I just wanted to make you aware of this so there is no surprises when we release the Beta regarding this. Thanks!

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Requesting Gravatar... sixYo Sep 05, 2008 10:53 PM
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Good news!!
Thanks !
Requesting Gravatar... Vijay Santhanam Sep 05, 2008 11:50 PM
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Does a beta release you guys are going to stop changing and evolving the core MVC Api?

Is there any ground left to cover before a beta release?
Requesting Gravatar... Ervin Sep 06, 2008 12:45 AM
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Yea. Better seperation with this.
Requesting Gravatar... Steve Sep 06, 2008 8:57 PM
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You should include it in the install and simply include the language you have here.

I don't like the idea that we all go fishing around to find some assembly that others will be using, blogging about, etc...

Again, please just include it in the installation package...
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Sep 07, 2008 10:57 AM
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@Steve if only it were that easy. :) We have a high quality and compatibility bar for RTM releases. We don't have the time or resources to get the MvcFutures to that quality bar for our 1.0 release. Many of those features will make it into the next version though.

I can put this disclaimer in the installer, but it probably wouldn't help. I think it would cause more angst and confusion if someone calls support for a problem they have with the MVC framework only to find out that it was in the unsupported assembly and not the supported assembly. If the unsupported assembly is a separate download, then there's a clearer separation of what is considered supported and what is not.
Requesting Gravatar... Steve Sep 07, 2008 7:43 PM
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ok, so if I use it now, in beta it won't work?

See the delimna for your customer?

ie. "we've put these great features in, but chances are we won't include them because it won't meet our high quality...even though our customer asked to at least leave the assembly in the install for those that wish to continue to use it..."

I wish I could tell my customers that - must be nice to sit on that throne :)
Requesting Gravatar... James L Sep 08, 2008 12:33 AM
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Steve, I think you're being unreasonable.

It ain't ready til it's ready. It's as simple as that.
Requesting Gravatar... Simone Sep 08, 2008 1:20 AM
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Talking about Beta levels, did you come up with a solution for the "VS vanishing when opening a P5 view" bug?
Requesting Gravatar... Shiju Varghese Sep 08, 2008 2:38 AM
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Hi Phil,
Good news. When can we expect the beta release?
Requesting Gravatar... John Sep 08, 2008 4:53 AM
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sounds like a plan, better to have something you can depend upon rather than a lot of grey areas to avoid; good work.

is there a more fuller document or cheat-sheet available somewhere that lists all the helper functions you can use in the view?
Requesting Gravatar... Steve Sep 08, 2008 5:31 AM
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I have re-read and see that the assembly will be available on codeplex, so that is reasonable to me.

Thanks

(I was going to recommend possibly using mvccontrib)
Requesting Gravatar... glompix Sep 08, 2008 7:24 AM
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If you're already using the futures assembly, then you're probably keeping up with this kind of news anyway. No big deal and thanks for the heads up!
Requesting Gravatar... redsquare Sep 08, 2008 9:14 AM
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@Simone, I had this issue, I uninstalled power commands and can now open views!
Requesting Gravatar... Simone Sep 08, 2008 10:29 AM
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@redsquare: I uninstalled them (actually I didn't have them installed, but TFS powertools) and nothing changed
Requesting Gravatar... Louis Sep 08, 2008 12:57 PM
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Does this also we're nearing the CTP event horizon? Or should we more likely expect Preview 6 or 7 down the line?
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Sep 09, 2008 3:28 PM
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@Louis Our plan is that the next release will be the Beta and we won't have Preview 6 or 7. At least I hope so. :)
Requesting Gravatar... Chance Sep 10, 2008 6:02 AM
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After this beta release, are you guys going to change gears from feature-changing launches to optimizing & bug-squashing releases?

Btw - thanks for the heads up.
Requesting Gravatar... neil martin Sep 13, 2008 2:00 PM
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at last i can get away from monorail.
Requesting Gravatar... eniac Sep 14, 2008 12:27 AM
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In response to Simone. I found the same VS crash problem. It possibly originates with the Power Commands plugin. Try uninstalling power commands or starting visual studio in safe mode, i.e. devenv.exe /SafeMode
Requesting Gravatar... Dhinch Sep 16, 2008 8:43 AM
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Woop!!

Beta next release... cant wait.

Any ideas on timescales for release?

I cant bear the anticipation any longer.
Requesting Gravatar... Tim Van Wassenhove Sep 16, 2008 10:29 PM
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@Simone & eniac: I experienced the crashes too, uninstalled Power Commands and can confirm that the crashes have disappeared.
Requesting Gravatar... Shadowman Sep 17, 2008 9:10 AM
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Thanks for all the work Phil! Looking forward to the the beta. Also, any thoughts on including Live ID integration in the standard project?
Requesting Gravatar... celik Sep 20, 2008 4:42 PM
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Looking forward for MVC beta.
Requesting Gravatar... Jonathon Kresner Sep 22, 2008 8:40 AM
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I wish you guys didn't drop the strongly type generic action links into futures, they are awesome! None the less, seeing how the framework has evolved at every step of the way I've come to love MS's implementation of Mvc. It has lead to some seriously rapid dev for me and my team, seriously looking forward to beta, you guys have done a wicked job!
Requesting Gravatar... Roger Chapman Oct 16, 2008 4:20 AM
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Now that the beta HAS been released; where on the codeproject site can I actually download the MvcFutures? It's a maze!

Thanks in advance.
Requesting Gravatar... Roger Chapman Oct 16, 2008 4:29 AM
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"codeproject"!!!??? I Meant to say CodePlex!
Requesting Gravatar... Adrian Phillips Oct 16, 2008 7:14 AM
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Hi, we've installed the beta and we can see a System.Web.Mvc v1.0.0.0 DLL in the GAC. But it doesn't appear when adding a reference in Visual Studio 2008, is anyone else seeing the same thing?
Requesting Gravatar... Geoff Nov 20, 2008 5:27 AM
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I'm having the same problem. After installing MVC beta, I can't see it to add as a a reference in Visual Studio.
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Nov 21, 2008 9:18 AM
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@Geoff You probably need to use the newer version of the MVC Futures assembly.

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