On Seppuku, Katanas, and Samurai

Yesterday, along with Akumi's uncle Tadashi, we visited her grandmother at a rest home. She's a spunky 90 year old woman and gives me great insight into where Akumi gets her rebellious nature from. We took her for a walk and I jumped onto a thin railing. Her reflex wasn't to wave me down for my safety, it was to reach out as if to push me off and cause me to crack my skull. We made sure to push her wheelchair to the edge of the river as if to push her in. We all had a good laugh afterwards.

Akumi's Grandma

Katana
Afterwards we walked over to the uncle's house. Akumi refers to him as the "Harley Davidson" uncle as he rides a Harley and is in love with the Harley brand. He was wearing Harley jeans and a Harley cap. When we arrived at his place, he showed us his 200 year old Katana.

Katana
The Katana in its case. Tadashi made the stand himself.

It's a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. Every two weeks he cares for it with a strict regimen to ward off rust and keep its beauty. Should he require a sharpening (which probably won't be required) it costs $100 per centimeter to sharpen properly. It's a collector's item worth over $8000 made by some guy named Hattori Hanzo (ok, the Hattori part isn't true).

Collector's Item
Tadashi shows us the engraving on the hilt and a matching monograph in a collector's book.

Tadashi explained to us that Samurais went to great lengths to take care of their swords and a good way to get yourself killed back in the day was to carelessly handle or knock down a Samurai's sword. That would invite a fight to the death. Only then did Tadashi let me handle the Katana and I took great care to show it the respect it deserved.

Me with Katana
Displaying the ferocity and skill that would have made me a great samurai. Or samurai fodder.

Seppuku
Tadashi has a sense of humor similar to my dad's. He told us that when he's unable to care for himself, he'd prefer to commit seppuku than waste away in a rest home. My dad always tells us that when he can't wipe himself, drive him out the backwoods of Alaska and let him loose for the bears to find him.

When a samurai was dishonored, he would commit Seppuku in order to regain his honor. Today, dishonoring oneself is a sport displayed on reality television.

Sometimes this is referred to as Hara Kiri, though Tadashi tells us that Seppuku is the correct term. Hara Kiri and Seppuku are the same characters in Japanese, but they have two different ways to pronounce them.

The act of seppuku required the samurai to essentially dissect himself with a katana while another Samurai chopped his head off to finish the deed. The sword the other samurai used was specially made for this purpose as just any sword will not do. To test the sword (see, "test first" is not a new thing) they piled dead decapitated bodies one on top of the other, in what must've been a pleasant ritual, and then attempted to cut through as many as they could with one strike of the katana. Afterwards, the katana was carefully engraved to document the number of bodies it cut through. Thus a "three body" sword meant it cut through three bodies.

Tadashi showed us a picture of a sword with an etching of "Three Body Sword" on one side. On the other side it said "After re-engineering, Four Body Sword". I want to know where they got all these bodies for testing. I'd hate to be the QA department for a seppuku katana.

In the next two pictures, Tadashi demonstrates Seppuku.

Seppuku demonstration step 1
Step 1, insert the blade here. Be sure to disinfect first.


Step 2, slash across here. Be sure to cut into the major organs. Doesn't that feel nice?

For women who had been shamed, they would often kneel down to commit seppuku and were permitted to lean into the blade, bracing the hilt on the ground if they did not have the strength to cut themselves.

What others have said

Requesting Gravatar... Dimitri Glazkov Jan 05, 2005 6:24 AM
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Crap, man! This is by far your coolest post. So, what's the difference between seppuki and harakiri?
Requesting Gravatar... Thomas Wagner Jan 05, 2005 9:06 PM
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Its almost as though I'm on vacation with you! Neat pictures and stories
Requesting Gravatar... Adam Kinney Jan 06, 2005 12:56 PM
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Yes, very cool. I need to go back and catch up. I loved the "Hattori Hanzo" nod :)
Requesting Gravatar... haacked Jan 07, 2005 2:12 AM
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Thanks for the kudos! There is no difference between Seppuku and Hara Kiri. They are the same characters in Japanese. Just so happens there are two ways to pronounce the characters "Seppuku" or "Hara Kiri". Seppuku is the correct term, but Hara Kiri is understood.
Requesting Gravatar... Dimitri Glazkov Jan 07, 2005 7:03 AM
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I see. Well, how about "Loli-Goths" and "Hello Kitties"? Did you see any of those cultural aberrations?
Requesting Gravatar... oscar Jan 27, 2005 1:30 AM
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coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Requesting Gravatar... Sai Youcho Mar 03, 2005 8:32 PM
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A very nice sword indeed. That some MAJOR craftsmanship u got there. I wish I could hold such a piece in my hand some time.
Requesting Gravatar... iceymoon Mar 29, 2005 3:20 PM
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actually, while harakiri and seppuku do contain the same kanji, the reason why they are pronounced differently is because the kanji characters are reversed. ^_^ (??) is hara-kiri. (??) is seppuku. seppuku is considered the proper term because hara-kiri sounds more vulgar (a comparison i could make would be non-literal tranlations of the words to "ritual disembowlment" [seppuku] and "cutting the stomach" [hara-kiri]).

this was very interesting. :] thanks for posting.
Requesting Gravatar... chatkat Mar 31, 2005 10:49 AM
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i appreciate your displays, but you should also take a picture in formal attire, if you know what i mean*wink*wink
Requesting Gravatar... Lazken Apr 22, 2005 2:31 AM
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Hattori Hanzo did exist, but he never crafted a sword in his life ...

http://www.samurai-archives.com/hanzo.html

you guys watch too many kill bill movies ;)
Requesting Gravatar... you've been HAACKED Apr 22, 2005 9:51 AM
# So There Was a Real Hattori Hanzo
Requesting Gravatar... Bryan Apr 28, 2005 2:03 AM
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i love samurai swords i own 3 of them.i was wondern where can u go to buy or get a tool for sharpening swords ? sadly my swords r not sharp but only one is sharp. so if u can e-mail me as quick as possible tht would be cool :') oh yea tht old guy can really make a sharp sword well byebye !!!!!!! :')

Ps:lay off the kill bill movies will ya ;-P
Requesting Gravatar... chuck noriis May 11, 2005 7:00 PM
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i love evrything to do with samurai except the way they kill temselves ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!! i love samurai!!!! they so hot wen fiting.
Requesting Gravatar... jack perrins May 11, 2005 7:01 PM
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i love samurai they are so hot!!!
Requesting Gravatar... Jack Prrins May 11, 2005 7:03 PM
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I am a pom ande we get plenty of samurais in England
Requesting Gravatar... Jack Prrins May 11, 2005 7:05 PM
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i like cheese
Requesting Gravatar... Deansie May 12, 2005 12:35 AM
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I AM A SEXY BEAST WITH MR. BEEFY!!!!!!!!
Requesting Gravatar... American kid May 12, 2005 3:23 PM
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i wanna katana...
Requesting Gravatar... Jubei Katsimoto May 13, 2005 2:31 PM
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i have a paul chen katana folded steel just thought id be cool and say it, im trying to model my life after bushido
Requesting Gravatar... liam mgwhinney May 22, 2005 1:08 AM
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my best frend is a samurai sword
Requesting Gravatar... liam mgwhinny May 22, 2005 3:39 AM
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hold on a sec i dont hav ne friends so i hav to hav out wiht noye at bmore cause his parents make him
Requesting Gravatar... Larry May 27, 2005 7:52 AM
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Harakiri and Seppuku are not the same thing. Seppuku is assisted suicide and another person cuts your head off after you decapitate yourself. Harakiri just implies suicide, you dont need to use any swords. If a Japanese man were to throw himself of a building, it would be considered harakiri, not seppuku.
Requesting Gravatar... Mr Hanso May 27, 2005 8:40 AM
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Erm, that isn't a katana you have there... In fact it is a Tanto. It is the smaller sword in a samurai's Daisho (Meaning Big and Small literally) But most of the time it is a Wakizashi and a Katana. It is more often used when an impractical Katana couldnt be (Enclosed spaces). Im starting to think it is a Wakizashi actually, because Samurai tend to use the wakizashi for Seppuku instead of the tanto. Hope that helped
Requesting Gravatar... roari gazongol May 28, 2005 3:43 AM
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But did hattori hanzo really exist? I mean some people are believing the movie kill bill vol:1 that he does exist but thats just the power of the media these days. If he did exist his swords would be awesome!!!
Requesting Gravatar... Alex Demers - 14 - canada May 30, 2005 5:05 PM
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its a fine tool all my katanas wakizashis and tantos srte only about 2 years old but stil...able to cut through bamboo mats so its good enough for me i own 7 katanas 2 wakizashis and 3 tantos but none are "genuine" can you sugest any swordsmiths on osaka or okinawa ill be there for a month this summer so im hoping to expand my collection. as soon as you get a chance (if you know of any smiths email me back at Spazzy13@hotmail.com thanks
bye
Requesting Gravatar... Yo Dude ... Jun 03, 2005 10:32 AM
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if there's going to be any language analysis going on, are there any native Japanese speakers out there who know swords and can shed some light on any of this?
Requesting Gravatar... Ya Mama Jun 09, 2005 6:15 PM
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For the guy thats going to Japan looking for real swordsmiths, all I can tell you is that you better carry a good amount of cash with you ($50k or more). I doubt you can get a real one done in less than a months time, and if you plan to take it out of the country you are going to need a license. Going to Japan and getting a real japanese katana these days is a very hard process...not to mention extemely expensive....good luck!
Requesting Gravatar... what The heck Jun 11, 2005 6:34 PM
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Why do you teach poeple to kill themselves? I guess its just for educational purposes.
Requesting Gravatar... A man Jun 11, 2005 6:40 PM
# Wow
This site is okay, I like the swords and will be ready to attempt Seppuku when i get my sword in the mail. JUST KIDDING, thanks for teaching us some stuff about Samurai traditions. I am really getting a kantana in the mail though.
Requesting Gravatar... aaron Jun 17, 2005 1:31 AM
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Hattori Hanzo existed but he did not make swords. Infact he technicaly was not a samurai. He was a practitioner of ninpo (ninjutsu). He allined the 7 leading clans during the pre majie eara (excuse spelling). Ergo becoming the true lord of the ninja.... no a samurai.... not a sword smith... samurai where arrogan pigs who missused power. And much to the belife of the public. ninjas where not assasins... they where more like the underground resistance.. though shure i will admit there would have been the few who did do bounty hunting and so forth. Read some history books.. and try to do it with an unbiased opion and remember the history books where writen by the samurai .... the enemy of the ninja.
Requesting Gravatar... konnishiki Apr 01, 2006 7:29 PM
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Bullshit. From what I've read VERY few women were allowed perform seppuku...unless they resembled and/or sang like Rosie O'Donnell. Most women either killed themselves by stabbing themselves in the neck or heart with a sharp hair pin(although this was supposedly rare as well).
Requesting Gravatar... some1 Apr 17, 2006 12:53 AM
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Yeah, ninjas and samurai didnt like each other, it would be an interesting fight though, dont you all agree? how do u get the licence to hold a katana? or any original samurai sword?
Requesting Gravatar... Chris Rush Apr 21, 2006 8:46 PM
# Nope, thats a Tanto
The blade you are holding is a Tanto in its shira-saya. Good demo of seppuku but as you can see there is only a small portion of blade left and would not bring a quick death as a wakazashi would. The point was not to just dump ones intestines on the floor, but to sever a major artery that runs anterior to the spine behind the intestines and down the legs. For this you would need a 24" blade like a wakazashi, death is almost instant. And FYI if the Samurai was lucky enough to be beheaded the beheader would only strike the neck deep enough to cut the spinal cord, detaching the head was dishonorable.
Requesting Gravatar... Matt Apr 25, 2006 10:24 PM
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Well - im glad that in Sri Lanka they are using the traditional way of killing - i.e With guns and bombs and stuff.

Actually...im not glad about that either.... ;)
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Whoa, Guys...
I do speak Japanese, and I will tell you that both Harakiri and Seppuku translate very literally to "Disembowelment". As was previously said, however, one is more proper.
I'll use an analogy:
Harakiri=Whore where
Seppuku=Prostitute

Sorry to be vulgar, but that's the only way I could think to put it....=P

Anyways, in response to a previous post, women were just as expected to kill themselves to regain their honor as men were... To the Japanese during that time period, death had practically no meaning. If they talked like we do now it would have been like "Oh, she killed herself? What a shame...", and then on with the conversation. This is what "Bushido" is all about. Personally, I think I'll skip the whole "Ready to die for my master at any time" thing....:).
Requesting Gravatar... Perpetualnoise Jul 17, 2006 7:05 AM
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and with whoever left the comment of the ninja... try reading... while some ninjas were assassins, many were peasents and fighting was only a small part of it, in Ninjitsu, there are 18 different levels or studdys, while Busido only has like 10 or something, either way, it was a much more disiplined way of life...


and space ninjas pwn all!
Requesting Gravatar... JuriDawn Jul 30, 2006 8:38 AM
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Not that I normally put much stock in Wikipedia, but I found this painting interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Femme-47-ronin-seppuku-p1000701.jpg

A woman committing seppuku would tie her legs together to ensure a decent posture in death. Ya learn something new everyday, no?
Requesting Gravatar... Quantumform Aug 07, 2006 2:29 AM
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"and space ninjas pwn all!"
lol the plural of ninja is ninja = P
I ordered a paul chen katana;

http://www.swordsofhonor.com/prka.html
and infact i am holding it now. I own a wakazashi (meaning youth in japanese) but it's not a "real" one.

Very interesting article I must say. Most katanas are roughly 38~41 inches (including handle), while wakazashis range from about 27 to 31 inches and the tantos are the smallest. In my opinion I would think that it's a tanto you are holding. Very nice = D
Requesting Gravatar... Sakana Sep 26, 2006 1:37 AM
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YOur Katan is very nice. I have one katana.but not real.
Japanese samurais are cool-blood but they are kind,faithful,shy and brave.They have many power.
I don't understand ,when they defete at war why did "Harakiri"<suicide>. I think, they want success.
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The most I like best is Samurai Katana.Wakizashi and Ronin Swords.

Requesting Gravatar... Kimpossible Mar 05, 2007 8:19 PM
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Well I hear that in China they tested the swords on Chinese civilians.
Requesting Gravatar... blademan Jun 04, 2007 9:08 PM
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i made a katana when i was living with poppy, he knew what he was doing cause he did nijutsu all his life, he took me under his wing when my dad walked out and taught the ways of the shadows
Requesting Gravatar... mortikai, master of blades Jun 04, 2007 9:32 PM
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perpetualnoise u know what ure talking about, and only a few ninja were actually asassins, most of the ninja warriors were really similair to the samurai warriors, then therse the peasents, who wered traind to fight most of there life, although they were still ordinary townsmen, and whoever said that the samurai tested there swords on the towns men, that is true but only in some places, some of the samurai clans were brutal pigs but many were peacefull little townships, and only ever went to war once every decade or so, what does that say for modern man? the people of that time were more disciplined than todays people, and commiting suicide for the samurai thing has a pretty cool story, if you take the time to find the truth. by the way there are 18 disciplines of ninja and i have been studying ninjutsu for nine years, i can make katanas and i have a collection of roughly 5430 shuriken including my 50 inciedary shuriken i recieved from poppy at christmas and i own a real wakazashi sword
Requesting Gravatar... Horaki Jul 19, 2007 3:44 PM
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Is this a tantô or a wakizashi?I know it isnt a katana.
Requesting Gravatar... Tom Jul 23, 2007 12:37 PM
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Dude, thats not a Katana -its a Tanto...
Requesting Gravatar... Jo aka MrWeaponman Aug 06, 2007 11:26 PM
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It is a tanto, a very beautiful one. I collect old blades as well, mostly anything Japanese as well as Arming swords. I also collect Shinken, but prefer nihonto xP Please respect that tanto, it is worth a lot of money, not to mention it deserves respect. Also, to all of you who say you "own" antiques, you do not own them.I am in the JSSUS ,Antique blades are not meant to be owned, they are meant to be taken care of for your life, then passed on for another generation to care for (hopefully the new generation will CARE for it xD) Anyways, exquisite blade and nice information.
Requesting Gravatar... Paul Aug 18, 2007 6:24 AM
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greet
my name is Paul I want to offering you sword of original samurai from Meliau (west borneo). I have 2 samurai, 1 from the officer of Japanese Kaegun whom killed on war in 1940+ and the other's from regulary soldier marine's but sorry I have crops/bound of the die soldier because the already take with their friend. So it just the samuray,katana and sertificate of that sword. if you interested please contact me in 081345517183!or gived your address and I will send the pict of that samuray's.
that's all thank you.
Requesting Gravatar... Formal samurai sword Jun 17, 2008 7:54 AM
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I'm interested in history of samurai sword.Emperor of Japan "Tennno" is the last royal prerogative supported by ancient myth in the world.
The Oldest japanese myth literature "Kojiki" says that Imperial treasure sword was got by the god Susanoo from eight head dragon in Izumo.
Raw steel of samurai sword is only made by Hitachi Metals at Yasugi Izumo Shimane prefecture.However Hitachi Metals is famous high-tech steel maker,raw material of formal japanese sword is made by ancient steel making method "Tatara". Raw steel is called "Tamahagane"(Jewel like steel).
I hear that it is supreme one for sword making.I wanna get and forge it.
Requesting Gravatar... mr magoo Jun 23, 2008 5:30 AM
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To Bryan; There is no tool per se that can sharpen a sword in the sense that you are thinking. Swords are sharpened with stones. The stones are special. They are mined in Japan, cost hundreds of dollars each, and are difficult to get. It takes many grades of stones to polish the blade down to a decent finish, then finger stones to bring out the temper line, along with different types of oils and etc to get it to a high degree of polish. Many polishers charge $100 to $300 per inch of blade, up one side and down the other, and unless you have an ancestral blade made by an excellent smith, it's not worth it to have the blade put into full polish. Fred Lohman does a basic polish job good enough for the average sword for around $800. Stones alone will run you thousands of dollars. That's why a professional job cost so much. Magoo
Requesting Gravatar... Steve Martindale Jul 15, 2008 8:48 AM
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Te blade displayed is a tanto (Japanese short blade)not a katana (Japanese longer sword).

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